On February 27, radio host Joe Rogan brought radio show host and Infowars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones onto his livestreamed podcast “The Joe Rogan Experience” episode #1255. During the program — which has already received over 2.5 million views since being posted on Wednesday — Jones talked of several conspiracies over a four-hour period to including that he was 6% Comanche and that Native Americans are easy to mind-control.
Update: Alex Jones responded to Indian Country Today on Thursday after 5 pm via email.
"I myself, am at least 6% Native American, and I am proud of my heritage."
"I was speaking in general, about how Germans follow orders and are very ‘group-think’ once the war starts; how Native Americans do it, and it is well-known; but particularly with the Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.
All groups go into ‘group-think’ once they are in a war. But it is in particular with certain groups and historians have noted that, but have fun with your political correctness," wrote Jones in the email.
Alex Jones has been at the heart of controversy for his conspiracy theory website Info Wars and as a result of his described as extreme viewpoints by the public and media, many of his social media accounts were suspended on Twitter and Facebook. But he has remained ever-present online.
During the livestreamed podcast, “The Joe Rogan Experience,” as described on the Joe Rogan site as “a long form conversation with guests that is one of the most popular podcasts on iTunes,” Jones spoke about the meeting with Trump and Kim Jong-un, Cohen’s testimony on Trump, Sandy Hook conspiracy theories, animal-human hybrids, aliens and more.
Shortly after speaking about German soldiers and Satanic cults, Jones starts discussing Mexico and Native Americans at the 1:14:00 mark. Jones then begins discussing the connections to a cult working within a group mentality.
“They get people within a group, and they get them to do horrible evil things during peer pressure and they create this synthesis … of the darker networks of the criminal networks that are inside our government, are actually running Mexico as a laboratory test,” said Jones.
Jones continued, “Because they know Native Americans are gung-ho and they are tough, and they are ready to fight. I am part Native American, like six percent Comanche, Texas and just that little bit makes me wild. So, they can get them, because they are powerful, they are smart, they are neat, they are cool, but genetically they go into groupthink really fast and so, Native Americans you can mind-control really fast.”
Rogan asked Jones why he stated it to which Jones replied, “It was like Vietnam.” Jones then makes comparative references to Native Americans, the Bering Land Straight theory, Mezo Americans and a theoretic genetic connection to Chinese soldiers. “In fights in Korea, and fighting the Chinese ... or Vietnam ... they are conscious and real people, but when they get into a fight, they sync up into robots and have no fear. (These) are psychotic killers you are fighting.”
Shortly after the episode was posted to YouTube, Cristina López, the deputy director of extremism at Media Matters, tweeted her stance on the video podcast.
“This just got pretty racist: Alex Jones is on the Joe Rogan show and just casually claimed (Rogan just enjoying himself) that the government runs Mexico like a lab because Native Americans "genetically" go into groupthink pretty fast and therefore are easier to "mind control"”
In an email to Indian Country Today, López wrote, “While these racist, dehumanizing statements are pretty common for Alex Jones (he built a profitable career and an audience from them), the issue here is that they were casually broadcast with zero pushback from the host in one of the widest reaching platforms in the country, allowing for the perpetuation of stereotypes that normalize inequality, oppression, and exclusion."
Indian Country Today reached out to Rogan and Jones. We have not received a response from Rogan.
This article was updated to reflect that Alex Jones has responded to Indian Country Today via email. His response is now included.
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