Well-known Navy SEAL Don Shipley obtains Nathan Phillips' Military records

Retired Navy SEAL Shipley, shares Phillips’ DD-214 on his popular YouTube account, defines Phillips as non-combat vet

The well-known retired Navy SEAL, Don Shipley has obtained the official military records of Nathan Phillips and posted a descriptive story to his YouTube account. The military records paperwork, known as a DD-214 were secured by Shipley due to his connections to the military and work in the area focusing on stolen valor.

He says a lot of the confusion to obtaining was largely due to Nathan Phillips' enlisting name, Nathan Stanard.

Shipley opens his video beating a large bottle of vodka with a spoon and asks his viewers to guess who he is talking about. He shortly thereafter reveals that Nathan Phillips is the subject of the video, who joined the U.S. Marines in 1972 but did not serve in combat.

Throughout the video, which Shipley admits “will probably offend someone” he makes other Native-themed comments including “I am Ten Bears” about the movie Outlaw Josey Wales.

Shipley then describes the DD-214 in which Phillips has served as a private and exited the service as a private and received one medal. He also shows that Phillips went AWOL and was stationed in Nebraska and California. He had also served as a ReferMech or Refridgerator Mechanic.

In addition to Shipley’s remarks, syndicated columnist Phil Kerpen applauded Shipley’s ability to get the military paperwork.

Kerpen tweeted, “Don Shipley got the DD-214. Self-described "recon ranger" Nathan Phillips was a rifleman for two days and a refrigerator mechanic in Lincoln, Nebraska and El Toro, California the rest of his service. Retired a private.”

Shipley quotes an article from Digital Underground, which is a site that extracted the article from Vogue, He recites Phillips’ comments in the article, “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role.”

Shipley responds, “I got you down as an electrician.”

Chase Iron Eyes, lead attorney for the Lakota People’s Law Project, says there has been a lot of backlash regarding Phillips’ response regarding comments at Standing Rock over the term ‘recon ranger.’

Iron Eyes told Indian Country Today, “The recon ranger quote was taken completely out of context. I’ve known Nathan a long time. He was speaking about his role at Standing Rock, he was not talking about his role in the military. He has always said Vietnam Times or Vietnam era when referring to his military service.”

Chase Iron Eyes, lead attorney for the Lakota People’s Law Project

A friend of Phillips, who will remain anonymous, also contacted Indian Country Today via phone and email to say he has known Phillips for over 20 years, Phillips has talked about his service extensively for years and has never said he was deployed or in combat.

In the YouTube video, Shipley also says that “I haven’t personally heard him use the words that I am a Vietnam Vet. What I’ve heard him say and what’s written is ‘I was in Vietnam Times.”

Shipley then shows a clip of a CNN video in which Nathan Phillips does say ‘Vietnam Times,’ while CNN does show a graphic that writes “I’m a Vietnam Veteran …”

He describes Phillips as a Vietnam Times Veteran, that might not have corrected people for describing him as a Vietnam combat Veteran.

Shipley’s video thus far has just over 43,000 views.

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Comments (234)
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JackBilly71TL
JackBilly71TL

It NEVER was about "indian peoples" or "native peoples" plight". The NCAI was established early on in dealing and handling the affairs of native peoples (honestly), but that all changed into 1990s when Casino generating tribes starting grandizing and making profits for Casino Revenue. The Indian Gaming sits on an est. $35 BILLION in casino gaming monies from one year 2017. And it keeps growing. Indian Gaming Tribes fund and "own" NCAI and it is the NCAI that funds and "owns" the Indian Country Today - which what this is. Imagine all the profits and revenues that indian peoples "never" get to witness and see all the while the "organized tribal profiteers" use the sacred and honor term "indian sovereignty" to provide separate between themselves and outside intervention. If the level and quality of NEWS that gets manufactured out from a supposed "news-journal", it only begs the question, what else do "they" do under the guise of looking out for indian peoples?

David Odell
David Odell

Shipley is wandering off his "seal" base and exposing his bias here. The qualification to be labeled a Veteran of a Foreign War, is simply to serve during any conflict, not in the conflict. So, every military member serving since the early 2000's whether stateside or deployed is a VFW. Also, we do not distinguish veterans by their specific jobs, because at any moment, anyone on active duty whether you are a supply clerk or a munitions specialist, can be deployed and killed. Being a veteran is not about arguing who did the most or the worst. Else we have a lot of questions about Officers who eat steak in far away bunkers while the privates are being bombed in the trenches. So, to be a private is much more dangerous than being an officer for sure. So, the elitist view of a seal , doesn't fly in the barracks of the ones who know they are the cannon fodder. 50,000 Americans died in Vietnam and Nathan was closer to the list of dead than Shipley. And yea, Natives serve at a higher percentage than non-natives. And yea, anti-war protestors were still harassing vets in 76. Seals get air support and special treatment. Privates get dropped and maybe picked up, maybe not. Shipley amplifies my view of elitist officers who still have their legs while demeaning the service of those closer to the Q. Maybe he should do a video about how many privates died and how many seals.

Amberhobo
Amberhobo

SEAL Shipley left out the part where your esteemed Elder has two judgments and two Unpiad Income Tax Liens. Maybe instead of picking fights with kids in DC, he should have used his trip money to pay his debts.

Bravo 6Fox
Bravo 6Fox

I’m a Vietnam vet and knew he could not be a Vietnam War because he is only 64 years old and I’m 72. That said I have to say that we Catholics will defend our children, families and property until death. These were children waiting for their buses to go home. They are off limits.

Long winded
Long winded

What a debacle! Is there no integrity anymore? If I can bring your character into question I can dismiss the validity of everything you say and stand for. Meanwhile, if I flourish my commitment with vague descriptions I can stand taller in a room full of posers. Even further, If I can make lite of your people I can stand as a beacon to all that is right with my people. All the while there is no one listening to what is needed in a world full of hate and oneupmenship! Absolutely no one is standing on a solid foundation of righteous indignation. Oh, but look how many "views" they have! Sheesh!

TomTom Phoney
TomTom Phoney

Is there any credibility left regarding reporting from CNN.. it is to a point of ridiculous. They have become less credible each week. Dozens of stories that they have their fact so wrong. You are probably going to get more facts from The Tattler then CNN. What a national shame that this news agency spins its yarns and actually attempt to pass it off as reporting. They should pass a bill that fines news agencies that print false and malicious articles to spin their political agenda. CNN FAKE NEWS !

DMZ Manchu
DMZ Manchu

As a veteran we should never belittle a fellow veteran's service to our Nation whether they served in combat or not, whether they were an officer or private, or whether they only received one medal. That doesn't mean I agree with Nathen walking into the crowd of boys. All gave some, Some gave all. COL Richard Morrow, Army Ranger

Stewart Resmer 1
Stewart Resmer 1

Phillips served. Big Chief Heelspurs on the other hand well, you know, hes a p grabber.

Stewart Resmer 1
Stewart Resmer 1

I fail to see how any civil judgements Philips may or may not have are anyone elses business as though they were trumps tax returns that he said he would reveal during the election cycle but now will not as POTUS as a civil servant?

And why should some one obtain and release personal information for public consumption like Phillip's DD214?

Jimbo123456
Jimbo123456

But Mr. Phillips/Stanard DID claim to be a Vietnam Veteran in this very publication. "Phillips also described coming back to the U.S. as a veteran from Vietnam. “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me.”" That post has been edited, in just the past couple of days, but archived. See link. BTW, DD214s are public records, available to anyone through a FOIA request.

Kdine
Kdine

As a Vietnam veteran myself (1969-70), this is the only part of Phillips' account I believe:

Phillips: “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me.”

I got spit on myself ...not sure if that happened before or after I went to Vietnam, but just being in uniform, that was it would take to be spit on and yelled at back then.

However, Phillips' account of his encounter with a young innocent 16 y/o boy was clearly a LIE, and he should be ashamed of himself!

JoeDe
JoeDe

Its perfectly ok to be a mechanic, however, its not ok to go AWOL to the point where you are jailed...multiple times. Its not ok to receive a less than honorable discharge. Its also not ok to lead people on. Even though he said "Vietnam Times" he should have been more forthcoming about his exact service versus letting them believe something different. He is not really a veteran nor did he serve the country by going awol and getting a dishonorable discharge. Frankly he should have never mentioned his "service" at all.

JoeDe
JoeDe

Let me add to my previous post. Its actually very easy to do the minimum and get promoted to E-4. Just attend, do the minimum and dont cause trouble. Something very wrong if you cant get to E-4. You have to do something very wrong not to get promoted to E-4.

Kevin M
Kevin M

Well, what do you know, more fake news! Not only did Phillips specifically claim to be a Vietnam veteran in multiple interviews, including the one with CNN where he said: "And it's because I'm a veteran -- I'm a Vietnam veteran -- that these two groups even have the right in this country to have protests" -and also- "And I'm a Vietnam veteran and I know that mentality of "There's enough of us. We can do this.""

Not only do you pretend that Nathan never said this, you went to the lengths of going back and editing one of your OWN articles where you claimed him to be a Vietnam veteran. https://archive.is/EiR1I Have you no integrity? Does truth mean so little to you?

Don76904
Don76904

First of all, it is illegal to publish someone's DD-214. The former seal is a jerk for sure. He should go to jail and also be banned permanently from visiting any US government installations. It doesn't matter if true or not, I doubt this pretend seal cares. He probably got booted out of the seals for being such as douche.

Don76904
Don76904

Why does a former Navy Seal even comment on this story? Is this seal a real deal or a showboat, I guess I don't watch movies or such, but i do know broadcasted someone's military records proves this former Seal is a 100 % A-hole.

Stewart Resmer 1
Stewart Resmer 1

There is that silly little detail called the privacy act of 1974.

Stewart Resmer 1
Stewart Resmer 1

Magas failed to thank Phillips for his service before insulting him for exercising his 1st amendment religious freedom expression

Hollygolightly84
Hollygolightly84
  1. The Privacy Act of 1974 has 12 exceptions. One of the exceptions is a FOIA request. Guess which exception this information falls under? If you guessed FOIA, you’d be correct.

  2. All of the information he obtained is actually released via a FOIA request. You don’t even need his permission or the DD-124. It isn’t that “publishing” the DD-124 is “illegal,” you just can’t get it while the vet is still alive without their consent, even with a FOIA request.

Don76904
Don76904

I finally watched the video by Shipley and I'm digusted at the arrogance of Shipley.This guy in effect is saying anyone's service (not just Phillips) that doesn't match Shipley's don't amount to jack shit. If you don't believe it, watch it again. Makes fun of where the man (or anyone) is stationed. Makes fun of this old man, who my even suffer from a common malady on reservations of fedal alcolhol syndrome caused by mother's drinking during pregnancy. Shipley you might be a Seal but you defiinitely a big time A-hole.

Condorman
Condorman

Min 9:40 - 10:30 "I'm a Vietnam vet and I served in the Marine Corps 72 to 76, uh. I got discharged. uh, May 5th, 1976, you know, uum, one of the, I got honorable discharge and one of the boxes in there, it talked, it showed that it was peace time or, or, or, um what my box says is that I was 'in theater', um I don;t talk much about my Vietnam time, you know, uh, uh, I usually say 'I don't recollect', 'I don't recall', you know, those years'

AnycoinExchange
AnycoinExchange

The ridiculous part is when people use the phrase "stolen valor". Young people in that era were given a choice between going to jail for draft resisting or going to Vietnam to kill foreigners who didn't pay enough respect to the U.S.

There is no valor in joining a gang and using vastly superior weapons to kill strangers in their own place. There is no valor to steal from Vietnam veterans.

Those Vietnam veterans who tell young people that Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc were stupid wars that harmed more than helped are telling the truth.

Mr Phillips is an honest old guy trying to fix some of the damage done in his youth as a gangbanger for the U.S. military. He is trying to discourage gangsterism among youth today. He has a lot more valor than candy ass cunts like the navy seal that can't fart without trying to make it look heroic.

Don76904
Don76904

My very last comment on the whole affair. # 1 The whole story is blown out of proportion. # 2 The old Indian , the kids and the blacks, were there for a different purposes, and the media, including Shipley, keep hyping the story for their own benefit (notice Shipley wanting 10 bucks a month for his website...nah, not from me). # 3 Most people realize that the Native Americans got a raw deal in this country since the "Great White Father" in Washington broke every treaty made with every tribe. # 4 It is established fact that many adults and children raised on Indian reservations suffer from the consequences of fetal alcohol syndrome. So I think the wise course of action would be to remember the saying " don't judge another till you walk in their shoes. " So let the poor old Indian alone. FUCK!

Pride
Pride

People like Mr.Shipley are missing the point. Young Sandmann needs a lesson on respect, his parents failed at that & so did the school him & classmates attend He stood there showing all his class mates with his grin on his face. I guess the chaperones coward down somewhere. All those students who participated should be reprimanded and Mr. Shipley, it doesn't matter if Mr. Phillips cleaned toilets in the military, he still served and as a Marine. Note that you are invading the privacy of Mr Phillips by posting his information. So stop throwing stones for your own glory posting. ooh-rah

Tinydancer
Tinydancer

First of all Shipley shame on you for posting Phillips military records, regardless of the reason why. 2nd there should be no light shined on racists. 3rd a lot of misconceptions fly when heated arguments are in process. Perhaps this kid did not know when the drummer comes around you should part so he can move through. But the smirk and jeers of these kids were totally inappropriate. Apparently their parents have not taught them right. They have a history of being disrespectful; the girls they were harassing earlier, the basketball game where they were jerring and making fun of black players and the list probably goes on and on. Why can’t people just get along and stop being so disrespectful.

Snowbear
Snowbear

Shipley needs to go away and mind his own business. It is a tribal matter only if they deem it necessary to do anything about any of it concerning this blown out of all proportion news headline concerning Mr. Phillips. The whole thing is nonsensical. Just trying to pit people against one another and like lemmings people fall for it. My concern would be why the catholic church/school took these underage kids to such a protest anyway? What exactly were they supposed to learn there?

Snowbear
Snowbear

You know having worked in hospitals with elderly patients previously, i know some of the older men loved to embellish a story to people to make it all sound more interesting by adding extra details and exaggerate things that are often untrue. So perhaps that is all that Mr. Phillips is doing in regard to his military experience. For a man of 64 years he looks like he has had a hard road to have walked. I'm surprised that some people don't really know or understand how some elders do that. Can't we just humor them seeing as they have just about come full circle in life?

deaine R.
deaine R.

Let me start by saying I have never served in the military, all the same I am disappointed that Nathans military service and personal life became 'the subject'. His military record being made a public spectacle - a mockery. Never serving I nonetheless Always believed in the Brother/Sisterhood of the military. I naively believed; No mater what you did you were part of a unit. ALL jobs are integral. Apparently if one did not serve in combat, on the front line, you are fare game to being dismissed and ridiculed. Being a civilian I do understand and appreciate the importance of Nathan Phillips work. Electrical and Refrigeration encompasses residential and commercial importance. Providing power, Cooling computers, refrigeration – (food: an army marches on it's stomach) keeping medication cool, lighting up and cooling dwellings,hospitals and transport vehicles, (including associated components) are all important in maintaining health and welfare of military personnel. Sad how his service and work is trivialized.

Rev Khan
Rev Khan

Racist is as racist does...and this Shipley dude is a racist looking for a spotlight....people who are racists will believe him because they want to. The rest of us know better. Thank you Nathan Phillips.

Karen6542
Karen6542

They also serve, who stand and wait. Anyone who joins the military, no matter whether they are in combat or are a refrigeration tech, are to be admired for their willingness to put their lives in danger in service to our country. A Veteran is a Veteran.

squeedle
squeedle

The convenience of taking things out of context to serve your own bias is extremely tempting, but it's plain lazy to give in to it, and I personally don't appreciate a vet crapping on another vet. At any time Mr. Phillips could have been reassigned from a support role to a combat role. It really pisses me off that these rightwingers don't just ignore it, but excuse it, when Republican Presidents pretty clearly used their white male privilege to avoid real service (GWB, Trump) and to avoid getting more than a slap on the wrist for going AWOL (GWB), but they conveniently complain about Bill Clinton's Conscientious Objector status, and conspire and lie about John Kerry's actual service in actual combat being actually shot at. Hypocrites.

funnyfaceking
funnyfaceking

Don Shipley's YT channel has been terminated: "This account has been terminated due to multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy prohibiting content designed to harass, bully or threaten."



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